Friday, May 16, 2008

Cranks, Crazies, and Dinosaurs

Here is a fun disturbing Friday game: try to spot all the denialist tactics used by these creationist cranks as they guide a group of children around a science museum:


Think this has nothing to do with feminism? Well, you're partially right - the tour guides don't openly promote the oppression of women. Yet, it is this sort of brain-washing that has convinced generations upon generations of supposedly 'good' people that women are not as intelligent as men, despite constant evidence to the contrary, and that they therefore do not deserve any rights - not even over their own bodies. This type of 'its in the Bible' non-logic also promotes the idea that gays are 'unnatural' - so, no rights for them either! So, being opposed to confusing children about the difference between fact and faith seems pretty feminist to me. The rearranging of reality to fit a preexisting world view certainly hasn't been good for women in the past and continues to hurt women today.

Besides, this sort of stupidity is just so... embarrassing.

(h/t: Coffee Shop Philosophy)

12 comments:

Casmall said...

When I watch this i keep expecting a docent to come out and politely tell them they're wrong.
Also, the logic they use is interesting - They set up this debate as if both ideas, creation and evolution, are equivalent and BOTH merely acts of faith.
If true, and we're just choosing what to believe, I've definitely made the right choice b/c their T-rex sounds like a pansy.

Lindsay said...

Listen to their language - referring to God as strictly as father.

Also, they're reinforcing the idea that Eve is responsible for original sin.

So, yeah, that's directly related to feminism.

La Pobre Habladora said...

Alright - these guys go beyond cherry-picking to flat-out ignoring, actually turning away from the exhibits that would provide answers to any questions they raise about the the legitimacy of carbon dating, for example.

They also present themselves as a group persecuted for their ideas "we might even say the j-word" - acting as if Christianity was something other than a majority in this country.

I don't know if these two would qualify as fake experts or not, though. They are accepted as authorities, but their credentials seem to be that they are just two fundamentalist guys in a museum.

FeministGal said...

I hope this isn't a class field trip... is it? that's just so so scary, that there are people out there who really truly down to their core believe this stuff...

Anonymous said...

They're home-schooled children, so this version is, tragically, the only one they'll be taught.

Lindsay said...

I also liked how the guy said that Jesus created the world when the Bible says God did.

Sure, Jesus created the world in the sense that Jesus is part of the Trinity and Godhead, coexisting with God and the Holy Spirit eternally... But I don't think those kids are going to make that theological leap just yet.

I bet Jesus rode the dinosaurs, though!

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La Pobre Habladora said...

So there you have it - the tour is neither scientifically or theologically sound. I hope these kids didn't pay too much money...

Anonymous said...

Did you notice the brainwashing and indoctrination techniques? I loved the little girl who was answering "yes" at the end - nodding her head - and changed to "no" with the group. That's how it works - go with the group, don't think for yourself. Get them while they are young. Most of this discussion was over the heads of the majority of the children in the group who just wanted to see the dinosaurs. Hopefully, some of them will actually be able to think independently some day. Hope is eternal.

Amelia said...

Ah! I can't seee. Stupid slow internet connection!! I'll be back later tonight.

Kacie said...

I can't sit through the whole thing. It saddens me that these kids, so obviously wanting to learn about science and other topics, are having their interests squashed by fundamentalist parents.

What's the answer?
JESUS!!


Sheesh.

Amelia said...

hahaha. Casmall makes a good point, about both sides being acts of faith. One has science behind it, the other, the Bible. So who is to say which is better?

Meh.

I was surprised to see that the curator man (gah! Probably the wrong title, sorry) was so tolerant when it came to allowing them to tour the museum. I guess it still brings in money, either way.

La Pobre Habladora said...

Yeah, I also wondered about the museum's decision to let these guys walk around spouting nonsense. I wonder if the Creation Museum would be so easy-going if we were to lead real science tours thought their museum.

Maybe we should try it.