tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post3026911789849710469..comments2023-06-14T08:24:18.553-04:00Comments on The Feminist Underground: Chicago's Proposed Gay-Friendly High Schoolhabladorahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01730183259272125337noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-70316692336024114822008-10-14T13:50:00.000-04:002008-10-14T13:50:00.000-04:00This would be a great thing! I'm a born and bred M...This would be a great thing! I'm a born and bred Milwaukee gal and I went to Milwaukee High School of the Arts, where a good population of the school was gay. Although I'm straight myself, it was a great place to go to high school just because there was less stigma against lgtb and so open to all sorts of diversity! Honestly I would have to say, though we did experience some problems, we were a Kesiahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10903122062839356099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-68538979387117081842008-10-13T17:29:00.000-04:002008-10-13T17:29:00.000-04:00There is a lot to be said for safe spaces. Women's...There is a lot to be said for safe spaces. Women's only school and gyms, historically black colleges, ethnically centered youth groups and sports teams - there are all places for people to VOLUNTARILY (that's the key word here) go and find common ground, understanding, and a shared sense of self that may not be available anywhere else in their lives. Clearly, LGBTQ youths can't remain in Дианаhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607494557386373608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-60057886145933646662008-10-13T05:06:00.000-04:002008-10-13T05:06:00.000-04:00I do think that there's a difference between enfor...I do think that there's a difference between enforced segregation and attending a targeted magnet program. Another good analogy might be historically Black colleges. They provide a safer space for those students who consider that a priority. Given the high suicide rate among LGBT adolescents, I think that providing that space for the students who most need it has a value. Also, it does sound roseblackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17613008288045782730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-13719581103320894932008-10-13T00:34:00.000-04:002008-10-13T00:34:00.000-04:00Safe, queer spaces are integral in my life and if ...Safe, queer spaces are integral in my life and if compulsory education is to exist, queer kids should have the opportunity to not be harassed constantly. <BR/>Every school ever should be queer positive, obviously - but that's not how it is right now. <BR/>Starting this school can't be the be all end all of making school enjoyable and it could potentially take away from making other schools Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-71889488012600651232008-10-10T15:52:00.000-04:002008-10-10T15:52:00.000-04:00P.S. Actually, here's what I hope happens: every L...P.S. Actually, here's what I hope happens: every LGBTQ student and ally in Chicago starts clamoring to get into the new school, to the point where the administration realizes that they won't ever fit them all into one school. So they go to Plan B: segregate out all the homophobic, harrasing students into one school so they can share their hate freely on one another and be targeted for serious Kekla Magoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17483824618846300911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-6274896305026405782008-10-10T15:45:00.000-04:002008-10-10T15:45:00.000-04:00Conceptually, I don't like the idea of segregating...Conceptually, I don't like the idea of segregating LGBTQ students, either. I think education about acceptance is the most important thing for our society's future. We need our youth to grow up understanding how to love each other despite differences.<BR/><BR/>In practice, though, I think a gay-friendly school is a good idea, particularly since participation would be voluntary. It's a safety issueKekla Magoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17483824618846300911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-2462832068652592202008-10-10T12:47:00.000-04:002008-10-10T12:47:00.000-04:00Well, I think we should look at the example of Har...Well, I think we should look at the example of Harvey Milk High School in New York. Here are some stats on LBGTQ Youth: http://www.hmi.org/HOME/Article/Params/articles/1320/pathlist/s1036_o1222/default.aspx#item1320<BR/><BR/>Another good example would be HBCU. I think that every student needs a place where he/she/ze feels safe, valid, and accepted. Everyone deserves to have a place where they moderatefidelityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17989605282439839678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-87134577293940592432008-10-10T11:12:00.000-04:002008-10-10T11:12:00.000-04:00I'm also ambivalent about this decision. I think "...I'm also ambivalent about this decision. I think "hooray! a place for them to be safe and free to be themselves." Then I think "boo! a way for them to continue to be seen as <I>other</I>."<BR/><BR/>This is my general feeling with most situations like these -- same sex schools, fraternities & sororities, etc.<BR/><BR/>For Habladora's question, I think what this says about Chicago is sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054413520223145494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-15329122024679977602008-10-10T10:28:00.000-04:002008-10-10T10:28:00.000-04:00Alright, I'll admit, when I started reading the NP...Alright, I'll admit, when I started reading the NPR article, I thought this sounded like a good idea. Then I got to the Hantas Farmer quotation and thought, 'it's true, this is segregation - and we don't want to send students off to 'go be gay away from everyone else' as though it were a quarantine.' <BR/><BR/>So... we have:<BR/>Pros: LGBT students can escape hostile environments where they are habladorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01730183259272125337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-78402427520924179522008-10-09T23:36:00.000-04:002008-10-09T23:36:00.000-04:00Well, lelah, I'm gay and I completely agree with y...Well, lelah, I'm gay and I completely agree with you. I think it's great that the city is willing to do something like this; it shows that they're thinking about discrimination and the detrimental effect it can have on teenagers. But I'm not sure this is the best option. It is segregation, though not intended negatively, and implies that if you're gay/queer/trans you have to go to a separate vast.tvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475528917624447501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3509053156280655479.post-62869026824566093032008-10-09T23:07:00.000-04:002008-10-09T23:07:00.000-04:00I would like to see the money for this go into pro...I would like to see the money for this go into programs teaching acceptance and love in all schools. I think separating these students would not be good for society. I think that by telling all students it's okay for someone to be LGBT is a lot better than herding these kids away from everyone else. I am speaking from the viewpoint of a straight person who has never had to personally face this lelahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03877774285790755198noreply@blogger.com